As the nation continues to protest and debate racial reconciliation and police reform, megachurch pastor Greg Laurie and Republican Senator Tim Scott sat down to an honest conversation on how the country can move forward, as reported by Faithwire.
Sen. Scott, a black Christian from South Carolina, has pushed forward the GOP’s policing reform policies in the wake of George Floyd’s death. The proposal, which was released on Wednesday, would restrict chokeholds and enhance a use-of-force database. Sen. Scott encouraged “character-driven law enforcement.”
“I can be pro-law enforcement and pro-communities of color. You can be both,” said Scott. “God is not colorblind. He actually loves diversity. He embraces diversity, and we should too, and we should treat each other according to Matthew 22, verse 39. We should treat each other as we would want to be treated.”
Laurie, who recorded the conversation for his congregation at Harvest churches, agreed.
“I believe God has established law enforcement. I believe racism is a real problem in our country. And I think we need to talk about it. And I don’t know why you have to be in one camp or the other,” he said.
In recent days, Scott has been candid on the struggles law enforcement has caused him. He was asked by Capitol Hill police to show his ID despite wearing a Senate pin and pulled over by police seven times in a year.
“Was I speeding sometimes? Sure,” he said, according to Fox News. “But the vast majority of the time, I was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood or some other reason just as trivial.”
“I do not know many African-American men who do not have a very similar story to tell—no matter their profession, no matter their income, no matter their disposition in life,” he said.
Nonetheless, it’s Scott’s relationship with Jesus that has moved him to forgiveness and strength.
“Choose the Lord’s side. And I don’t mean to be overly religious because in my opinion, this is not about religion,” he said. “This is about a personal relationship that transformed the way I see others because it first transformed how I see myself. And if I will take that new transformed self, who, before I was saved, I was filled with iniquity, driven by sin, driven by my instinctual luxuries or lusts, so to speak.”
“Now, as a born again believer, I’m driven by the gospel of Jesus Christ, so I don’t look for a black solution or a white solution or a blue solution. I look for a God solution. And that means I have to start there, end there and in the middle, stay there.”
Photo courtesy: ©Greg Laurie Facebook; ©Getty Images/Mark Wilson/Staff
Video courtesy: Pastor Greg Laurie
Mikaela Mathews is a freelance writer and editor based in Dallas, TX. She was the editor of a local magazine and a contributing writer for the Galveston Daily News and Spirit Magazine.